Episode 95 – Sage Wisdom

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It’s once again time for Totally New TumblingSaber Tuesday, and time for another whopper of a podcast!

In this week’s show, we discuss:

  • A collecting update
  • Millie Bobbie Brown magazine cover
  • Confirmation of TLJ trailer on Oct 9?
  • Domhall Gleeson on reading TLJ script
  • Battlefront 2 trailer & extended clip
  • Rebels Season 4 poster
  • Descriptions for first 6 Rebels episodes
  • Speculating on the next animated series
  • New Force powers in The Last Jedi for Luke or Snoke?
  • What movie memorabilia would you like to own?
  • Rumored runtime of The Last Jedi
  • Ahsoka and missed opportunities
  • Cameos in Rebels season 4?
  • Messy canon, and
  • Solving crazy political problems

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Will Ahsoka meet Obi-Wan again?

The hamster wheel keeps turning at the TumblingSaber! This week I’m wondering:

  1. When did Obi-Wan Kenobi learn about Anakin becoming Darth Vader? and,
  2. How and when Ahsoka Tano can be re-inserted in to canon, in an impactful way?
  3. Can the above two points be combined in to one spine-tingling, hair-raising moment?

One of canon’s great unexplored gaps is of Obi-Wan learning of Anakin survival, and life as Darth Vader. I’m sure Lucasfilm knows how Obi-Wan will discover the truth about his former apprentice. In fact, I’m sure that we’re already seeing the first steps down that story line in the Ahsoka novel. Merely including Obi-Wan in an unrelated plot point hints at that…why else include him if not to lay groundwork of his future story?

Dave Filoni has hinted that Ahsoka will be back following the Rebels season two finale, ‘Twilight of the Apprentice’. But in his typically cryptic style, Filoni was non-committal about when, where, how, or in what form Ahsoka would return. It wasn’t very long before we got more Ahsoka in the form of a young adult novel. Except that it pre-‘Twilight of the Apprentice’ Ahsoka where she becomes Fulcrum, a role she would keep for the next 15 or so years.

Set roughly one year after Order 66, the Ahsoka novel picks up when the Rebellion is in it’s early building stage. Ahsoka has no idea who Vader is, let alone who’s beneath the mask. In the novel, E.K. Johnston reminds usthat Bail Organa knows Obi-Wan is alive on Tatooine. But he preserves Obi-Wan and Luke’s safety by choosing not to tell Ahsoka, a curious choice. I don’t know if Johnston would have revealed that tidbit if there wasn’t more to come…in a sequel novel (of course there will be a sequel novel!).

During the time between being hired as Fulcrum, and learning of Anakin’s fate, could Senator Organa eventually reveal to Ahsoka that Obi-Wan is alive? What would Ahsoka do with this information? Might Bail ask Ahsoka to recruit Kenobi to the rebellion?

Depending on when (and if) Ahsoka returns, she would have to be the bearer of bad news that Anakin is now encased in the Vader armour, no? How powerful a moment would that be when Obi-Wan learns of his galaxy-altering mistake by not finishing Anakin off? At some point Obi-Wan has to learn this news. It’s a must-see moment! It could be the trigger that leads to us meeting the truth-altering, cynical Obi-Wan from A New Hope. And let’s face it: nobody in canon is a more appropriate choice to deliver that news to Obi-Wan than Ahsoka. Except maybe for Qui-Gon Jinn, who could be the one to tell him once Obi-Wan masters connecting with him through the Force.

“But Kyle, both of those things are needless. Obi-Wan could have just felt Vader in the Force and figured it out himself!” In my opinion it’s doubtful that Kenobi could “feel” Anakin’s presence behind that dark suit of armour if Ahsoka couldn’t. Ahsoka would continually reached out to Anakin’s presence after Order 66, but he just wasn’t there. He was gone; consumed by Darth Vader, as Yoda would say.

There are hurdles to jump in order to make this theory work, as is the case with nearly all fan theories. They would have to shoehorn this storyline in to a relatively short window between ‘Twilight’ and ‘A New Hope’. And if Ahsoka returns, why would she run back to the Rebellion?

The Obi-Wan we know in the prequels is much different than who we meet in A New Hope, and it would be a missed opportunity not to hit on this key moment in Obi-Wan’s journey. Sure, years of isolation on a desolate planet following the collapse of freedom that you were partially responsible for would be enough to sour anyone. But seeing Obi-Wan’s reaction to the news that his former apprentice is alive is a must-see.

What do you think? Is Ahsoka the right person to break the news to Obi-Wan that Anakin is alive?

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Episode 45 – Something is Coming

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Hey! Yeah I know, we’re very late this week! Canadian thanksgiving, and near-catastrophic technical difficulties nearly put us on a forced hiatus, but we persevere, and the wait is worth it! Episode 45 is finally here, and this week we talk about:

  • Announcing the Rogue Squadron Podcast as the 4th member of the Star Wars Commonwealth
  • The death of Ian Liston
  • The new Ahsoka young adult novel
  • Breakdown of The Antilles Extraction
  • Casting for Female lead in Han Solo Anthology down to three
  • Another rant on clickbait and lazy journalism in Star Wars
  • A Rogue One trailer coming this week (spoiler alert – yes!)
  • Ads Addition!
  • Listener questions
  • Twitter poll examination
  • Star Wars Commonwealth rap battle

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Rebels Review – S03E02 – Holocrons of Fate

Holocrons of Fate

Twitter can be a weird place. Cruising timelines, and live tweeting while watching our favourite shows is an indispensable part of fandom. Whether it’s sports, sitcoms, or Rebels, having twitter at your side makes any spell on the sofa a social experience. So it struck me as odd as I first opened the twitter machine on Saturday morning to the first opinions of “Holocrons of Fate”:



“Called it”

Those with the Disney XD app get early access to episodes of Rebels (is this a U.S. thing only?), so these early opinions can influence the rest of us who have to wait.

Holocrons of Fate is the second consecutive episode in which we cut right to the chase. We immediately learn that Maul has taken the Ghost crew captive (minus Kanan and Ezra). Unsurprisingly, Maul wants his holocron back. The one he almost got in the season two finale. The one he feels is rightfully his, but that his would-be apprentice, Ezra currently owns and uses. Agreeing to exchange not just the Sith holocron – but Kanan’s Jedi holocron as well – in return for the safety of their friends, Kanan and Ezra walk in to Maul’s trap. We’ve all seen this in previews, so I presumably haven’t ruined you yet.

For those who haven’t seen the episode yet, you might want to tread carefully because it’s about to get spoilery up in here.

During Steps into Shadow, Kanan confiscated Ezra’s Sith holocron and gave it to Bendu for safe keeping. Just one episode later, and we get another visit with Bendu. Hooray! Kanan and Ezra visit him with the purpose to retrieve the holocron. The ensuing sequence harkens to Luke, Yoda, and the tree in Empire Strikes Back. It also gave Ezra and Kanan a chance to mend their relationship which has been strained since Malachor. It’s a touching scene, and we are left with the impression that the old Ezra is back…with some caveats. We’ve seen Ezra’s maturity and growing power, but this was a reminder that he’s still a young man, who without Kanan would be very much alone.

Bendu leaves his mark on the episode by dropping more wisdom and hints; the biggest of which is that merging a Jedi and Sith holocron will answer any question for the wielder. This message comes with a warning that some secrets once learned, cannot be unlearned. Bendu describes having seen this happen before, and of its ensuing chaos. I wonder what he may be talking about?

Maul, of course, has no plans to honour his agreement to free Hera, Sabine, Zeb, and Chopper. Surprising, right? Kanan saves their hides, just after saving his own. Not too shabby for a blind guy who just one week earlier spent months in perma-mope mode. In another clip seen online over the course of the summer, Maul tries yet again to kill Kanan by shoving him out of the space station’s airlock. By the tip of his fingers, Kanan is able to hang on and get back in to the station’s hangar before freezing and/or suffocating.

This episode moves quickly to the main event, which is the mating of the Jedi and Sith holocrons. In a curious juxtaposition, Maul says he’s looking for hope, while Ezra confesses that he wants the power to destroy the Sith. Is Maul to be believed? What does Maul want with hope? Is he still trying to paint himself as a sympathetic character in Ezra’s eyes? Or, as @choprulz suggests on our latest podcast, is Maul looking for hope in order to stamp it out?

Bombarded with visions from the holocron Ezra and Maul come to a startling, if incomplete conclusion. The two participants lose their focus and the merging ends violently and abruptly. Presented with images of “Planets…some familiar, some not”, Maul staggers off, repeating “HE…LIVES!”. It’s a dose of the crazy, incoherent Maul we met way back in his re-introduction in Clone Wars. Who is “he”? Ezra, for his part, stuns viewers with what has to be the final piece of the puzzle: Twin suns. A very familiar setting for Star Wars fans, Tatooine looks like a likely destination in the near future.

If you’re still reading – thanks! But you’ve also now read Holocrons of Fate’s biggest reveal, and what a bolt out of the blue! I think everyone suspected that Obi-Wan would return (I certainly did), but I definitely didn’t see it happening so soon. Reintroducing Obi-Wan opens up all kinds of questions, that I’ll cover in another post. Holocrons of Fate ends with fans desperately wanting the next chapter, which has to be considered a great thing. And in classic fashion, it means that we’re going to have to wait at least two weeks, as next week’s instalment will give us Wedge Antillies’ introduction to the Star Wars universe.

If you have any comments, be sure to let me know in the comments below, on twitter, or facebook!

Episode 36 – New Villains, Old Planets

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Hold on to your butts, folks and clear your schedules! We’re back with yet another blistering episode of the TumblingSaber podcast, this one clocking in at nearly 3 full hours of Star Wars talk! If you’re one to listen to us while commuting, we’ve certainly got your back! If you like to listen at work, we’ll carry you all morning/afternoon! And if you listen at home, we apologise for monopolising your time!

On this week’s show, we recap a few news items, including:

  • The announcement of a new Rogue One trailer
  • Jimmy Smits confirmed for Rogue One
  • The results of our “Should Rey Go Dark” poll
  • Jennifer Muro working on a new project for Lucasfilm. What is it?
  • ABC and Lucasfilm talking live action TV series? Hmmmm…
  • A report on Kelly Marie Tran’s character in episode 8

We then do some catching up with listener questions, and did we get some good ones!

  • Will Kylo kill Snoke by the end of episode 8? (Josiah)
  • Lor San Tekka and the map – where was he? What’s the deal with him and Jakku? Coincidence or something more? (Cory, elaborating on Rob)
  • Similiarities between themes in Rebels and Episode 8? (Ads)
  • Are kyber crystals sentient? (Me)
  • What would  your classic Star Wars villain be? (Steven)
  • Different timelines in Rogue One? (Be sure to read Marc‘s piece on this here!)
  • How did the Clones know about their brain chips? (Rob)

That’s it for this week! Thanks for making time for us!

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TumblingSaber Podcast – Episode 19: Rogue Potatoes

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Howdy folks! It’s time once again to get a dose of Star Wars talk! What a week it was, what with the release of The Force Awakens on bluray, and the incredible first trailer for Rogue One! We also talk about an Episode VIII tidbit, and what’s the deal with the ashes in Kylo Ren’s quarters? Creep! For a bit of randomness, we chat about Bags of Dicks, and the best way to cook and eat a potato so you know it’s going to be a weird time this week!

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TumblingSaber Podcast – Episode 18 – Twilight of the Apprentice

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It’s all Rebels, all the time as we dive in to Twilight of the Apprentice, the mind-blowing, heart stopping season two finale! Join yours truly and @choprulz as we take a good long look at what is sure to be regarded as one of the great submissions of Star Wars lore – not just when it comes to animated works – but including the films and all other media as well. It was just that good and so worth the months-long wait!

We also take a brief look at a couple of news items, specifically, the rumors that won’t die about the Obi-Wan spinoff movie, a new Irish location for Episode VIII, and word that season 3 will be the final one for Rebels, with a new animated series stepping up to take its place.

If you liked what you heard on the TumblingSaber podcast, then please subscribe in iTunes, and be sure to leave us a review! Be sure to connect with us via the facebook page and join our growing community of fans We’re also on Stitcher or wherever else you like to grab your podcasts from, and you can always follow along on twitter. Lastly, if you like the music on the show, there’s more where that came from here!

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TumblingSaber Podcast – Episode 11

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Did you have a happy Valentine’s Day? Were you good to each other? It’s time to get back to the galaxy far, far away with episode 11 of the TumblingSaber podcast! It’s a packed show, full of our thoughts on Rogue One merchandise, the BAFTAs and John Boyega’s award, Episode 8 commencing principal photography, and our take on Obi-Wan possibly returning for Episode 8 as a Force Ghost. We close it all up by reading some listener questions.

That’s it for this week. If you like what you hear, please leave us a review on iTunes so that we can continue growing the show!

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Star Wars Rebels – The Call Review


Star Wars Rebels - The Call


It’s been a while since we’ve seen the crew of the Ghost on a mission without any support, contact, or outside assistance (in the form of a cameo) from the fledgling Rebellion, but that’s where “The Call” takes us. Dangerously low on fuel (and warm blankets, apparently), the crew of The Ghost are out searching for an out-of-the-way fuel refinery that supplies the Empire. Stealing the fuel and trashing the refinery kills two birds with one stone in that they get to keep flying around, and they inconvenience the Empire. In a desperate situation, we see how resource-poor the Rebellion is at this stage, and how it has to scratch and claw for everything they have.

Random Observations:

  • Even though Ezra’s “physical” Force abilities may have stagnated in this episode (and even failed him at one point), his ability to connect with creatures on another level is growing. We first saw it with the Fyrnocks in season one, but when the other creature is as intelligent as the Purgills appear to be, it’s a new level of understanding.
  • An apprentice overshadowing his master in his connection and usage of The Force? Where have we seen this before? “in some ways… a lot of ways… I’m ahead of him.”
  • How’d that work out? Could we be going down that path again? It’s a definite possibility at this point based on what we’ve seen so far, and in the trailer.
  • When Ezra failed to stop himself from falling, Kanan uses The Force to grab and pull him up to the platform. Why couldn’t/didn’t Vader do this with Luke in Empire? Surely that was not beyond Vader’s capability? Hmm.
  • More connective tissue across Star Wars eras: the Mining Guild gets another mention.
  • Purgills can travel at light speed? That’s equal parts puzzling and neat, but certainly an interesting twist in the Star Wars universe.
  • If ever there was any doubt that Hera and Kanan were more than just teammates, this episode puts another hole in that belief. Their bickering and needling of each other is very much that of an old married couple. Couple that with Sabine’s comments a couple weeks back that she was raised by good parents (an obvious reference to Kanan and Hera), and the picture gets even clearer.
  • Rodians. So incompetent in everything they do. They make Stormtroopers look like the ’72 Dolphins.
  • Related to incompetent Rodians – modified TIE fighters are cool and all but they’re easy enough targets as they are; these ones were even more useless.
  • The administrator of the refinery runs like something out of a Sonic the Hedgehog game. Got what he deserved in the end.

“The Call” was as solid an episode as we’ve seen in season two. Noting that again, nothing earth-shattering happened, but we did get some fantastic visuals and continued set up for what’s yet to come, especially where Ezra is concerned. The Inquisitors have been absent for over two months now, and it feels very much like a soft spot in a show like The Walking Dead, where the characters enjoy a few episodes of relative peace, only to have it shattered in dramatic fashion. There are only seven episodes left in season two and obviously there’s a lot left to be explored, and lots of consequences to fall. Next week’s episode features the return of Cham Syndulla so we can expect to see hints at Hera’s potential future landing spot, as well as her past. Check out the preview here. Final verdict: 8/10

What are your thoughts on this week’s episode? Let me know below in the comments, or on the facebook page, or on twitter.

Star Wars Rebels: Legacy Review


“You’re always there when I need you most.”

– Ezra, to Kanan.

Talk about dialogue with dual purposes. In an episode where Ezra is feverishly looking for his lost parents after an intense force vision, there’s a lot of meat on that bone. It’s a reminder that Kanan, for all intents and purposes is, along with Hera, (who says “we’re family) Ezra’s parents. It could also be a bit of foreshadowing, as these types of lines are often spoken not too long before the subject of said line is taken away.

“Legacy” was certainly the saddest episode of the season, if not of the entire series. You could feel Ezra’s impatience and frustration as he moved mountains looking for his folks. Impatience and frustration…not prized character traits for a Jedi. It was perhaps another glimpse in to a potential dark future for Ezra, who again flashes his rapidly growing power when he served Agent Kallus a warning shot that he is not some twerpy kid to be messed with. Ezra’s desperation to find his parents finally boiled over when he rushed both Inquisitors, simply because they were standing in his way, not because they’re bad guys who need to be dealt with. Had Kanan not channeled his inner Hawkeye, it surely would have been the end of Ezra. Again, a foolhardy and brash decision that smacks of dark side leanings. With no support of the Jedi kind outside of Kanan and Ahsoka, (neither of them being full-fledged Jedi) who would pull Ezra back from the brink if that’s what it came to? Who would stop him if he went over the edge?

I also find it interesting how once again we return to Lothal, after the Force vision led Ezra there. There’s something special about this planet other than being the main setting of season one, and Ezra’s home world. In the larger scheme of things, we see just how small the Rebel Fleet has become…if that is indeed all that’s left. With seemingly so few resources, it’s going to take some work to get to the point where we see a fully formed group by the time A New Hope rolls around.

Ezra finally finds closure with his parents…or does he? Ryder Azadi (Prisoner X-10) confesses to know his parents, and their fates. Sadly for Ezra the news is less than happy but something tells me that there’s more than meets the eye with Azadi, and that the situation around Ezra’s parents isn’t as wrapped up as the episode wants us to believe it is.

As a last observation, it’s interesting to see Rex removed from the core group, and spending time on the Rebel command ship with Commander Sato. It makes sense on two levels, as his experience as a high-ranking clone and insider knowledge of how the Empire might function would serve the Rebellion well, not to mention that the show is about Ezra and the crew of the Ghost. Rex and Ahsoka may be fan favorites and they’ll have a larger part to play to be sure. But it would be too easy to let the weight of their characters overshadow the entire series, so we’ll have to live with secondary roles for Rex and Ahsoka for now.

We seem to be at the midseason break, presumably to let The Force Awakens have the titanic wide berth that it commands, but the back half of the season certainly looks like it will be full of action and surprises.

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